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aries72
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 Posted - February 01 2003 : 6:43:54 PM
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Hi - Guess I will put it in here, since I can't get it in my profile. Yes I do have a homepage and it is: http://www.jackieoneil.homestead.com/JourneyinTimeII.html . My story in a short form, plus my likes and dislikes, it is a good site with lots of interesting data therein. I really am not very computer literate, and probably will never be, but am enough to get around and find very interesting information pertaining to just about anything. As I have learned life is only one day at a time so whats the rush, anyway God will take care of our needs if we let God.
Subject change - this morning I was awoken to the news of the day, about the Colombia, what a sad state of affairs, now I wonder whom our (government) is going to blame this one on?? I read the insert about Russia, very interesting and probably very true, most of it anyway - it still is one day at a time and it is for all of us to remember we (alcoholics, and addicts) are probably the lucky ones, atleast the ones that have claimed the 12 steps and are working them daily, and this is all I have to say, God be with each and everyone of you as you trudge the happy road to destiny. Thanks
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journeytoserenity
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Posted - February 01 2003 : 11:38:46 PM
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Great site you have there, Jackie!! Some links that interest me greatly. Thanks for the link. BTW - I put your website link in your signature so everyone can see it. It would not work in your profile because the link is too long. I had the same problem. If interested in how to acquire a shorter link to your site - FREE - email me....
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Matt V.
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 01:46:58 AM
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Columbia "disaster"? I suppose it could be called a disaster insofar as the effects it will probably have on our space program goes. This may be the event that leads to the eventual relegation of American involvement in space to the role of spectator. In and of itself it was a spectacularly complicated plane that crashed. Nothing more, nothing less. There will, of course, be all kinds of expensive investigating and "determing causes" but the simple fact of the matter is that something in that incredibly complex piece of machinery broke. Machines break all of the time, sometimes resulting in a lot more death and destruction than this one did.
I feel sympathy for the families and friends of the men and women that died Saturday morning, as well as pride in those men and women. They died living well, trying to help expand the boundaries of the Human race. The finest tribute that could be paid to them would be to broaden our efforts to expand beyond the confines of this small blue-green ball called Earth.
Go figure.
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journeytoserenity
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 12:23:29 PM
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Yes, Matt - DISASTER! There is quite a bit of diffence between "earth" disasters and those concerning space flight! Sorry you feel this way on this terrible event. And, I don't believe it's about American anything. When it comes to space, it involves the whole world. JMHO, of course.....
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Matt V.
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 1:45:26 PM
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The point is that the "disaster" hasn't occurred yet, or is just beginning to develop. It was an accident. How many times through the course of history have people died accidently while pushing the bounds of human knowledge or on journeys of discovery? Working in space is dangerous. That is a simple fact. In high-risk professions there are accidents and people die. That is another simple fact. The disaster is going to be the US space program withering and dying. It will be decades before another nation can attain the capabilities that the United States has now, provided that any are willing enough to even try. The ISS will sit empty and deteriorating, and mankind will once again be relegated to looking at what's in the sky, instead of going and seeing.
How do you think I feel? If you think I feel that this was a bad accident, but we can't allow it to stop us from moving forward, then you're correct. Don't feel sorry about it - I don't. If you think that I feel that allowing this to stop us from moving forward would be a disservice to the memories of all people that have lost their lives while trying to expand our boundaries, then you're correct. Don't feel sorry about it - I don't.
That's an idealistic point of view, but there's nothing wrong with it. I feel the same way. I'm also realistic enough to know that the type of cooperation between nations that that statement implies simply is not going to materialize any time in the near future. The last time that the majority of the industrialized world agreed to pool it's resources toward a common goal the event was recorded in history as World War II.
This accident was a tragedy for the family and friends of the men and women involved. There can be no question about that. It may be a tragedy for the nation and, consequently, the world as a whole if it's allowed to stop our quest to expand the boundaries of the human race.
Go figure.
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God_Chaser
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 2:21:29 PM
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Alright....I can see both points but how bout this. I watched a Charlie Rose interview the other night with Norman Mailer one of the most prolific and intelligent writers of out time in my opinion.
He spoke of American Arrogance and described the belief that we think we can manage everyone, solve everyones problems and address all needs in the world. He went on to say that Americans don't appreciate it when our help, aid, kindness, assistance are rejected or our motives are questioned. We trample the desires, wants and preferences of other cultures and then scratch our heads in sullen confusion when others retaliate. We do not accept or acknowledge failure and to a degree live in a state of unconscious denial while holding ourselves up as the supreme examples of charity, foregiveness and selflessness.
Underneath all our "good deeds" and selflessness are hidden agendas, selfish motives and unreasonable expectations. Still we get hurt and are confused when a country or entity refuses our help and rebels when we insist that they let us help them It would probably be more correct for us to honestly and simply say what our real intentions are...Exploitation and domination.
The Columbia was for all intents and purposes a national tragedy but I would hesitate when thinking that everyone in the world is greiving over it. Somewhere someone is probably thinking arrogant bastards, serves them right, a dose of humility might help them see their proper place in the world and think before imposing their culture and beliefs upon those around them.
Along with the money spent on the complex aircraft and seven people that went up and ultimately died in it, went the pride and over inflated ego of a nation. I am empathetic to a point but I am also mindful that when you buy into those illusions consequences are certain to follow.
Michael
"In hoc cognoscent omnes quia mei estis discipuli si dilectionem habueritis ad invicem."
Thomas Merton
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journeytoserenity
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 8:24:28 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys!! Didn't mean to come off agressive - not me - and apologize, if I did.
I, totally, agree and really this is what I meant. It's been a frustrating day!! Getting ready to move and trying to address a situation here...........oh, well. I will keep trying!!
BTW - since this is newcomers section - what about me moving it to coffee?? Others may, also, want to reply concerning the accident....eh??
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Matt V.
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 10:10:42 PM
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I was going to send you a PM suggesting just that. Guess I don't have to now, eh?
Go figure.
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journeytoserenity
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Posted - February 02 2003 : 11:02:08 PM
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Guess I was reading your mind, eh?? Are you a political kind of guy, Matthew??
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Matt V.
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Posted - February 03 2003 : 02:16:21 AM
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Political? Not really, although I do tend to vote Republican. Politcally Incorrect? Invariably.  Diplomacy has never been one of my strong suits.
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 Posted - February 03 2003 : 12:01:51 PM
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Aries, I visited your site and I love your story. For me the spiritual progress and the 12 Steps are what I need in my life the most. And I love the spirituality that I see in you. And someday hope to reach that same level myself.
God Bless the Columbia crew and my prayers are with their families.
Harry
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aries72
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Posted - February 04 2003 : 4:30:59 PM
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Thanks everybody, appreciate the feedback, beginning to wonder if I was ever going to get on here, whew made it. I kind of believe in what you all are saying, about the (crash)saturday, it shouldn't stop us from moving forward, after all isn't that what life is all about - learning?? accepting defeat, and moving onward. Hopefully our country will get the message sooner than later and I wonder if I will be on planet earth to watch it, maybe not but anyway controversy is kind of fun it brings out everyones ideas, good bad indifferent and I like that. Human beings are a kind of funny specie at times. Right now I am just rambling and it feels good as I am getting tired of rambling on to my little poochie, I know she understands me, but then there isn't too much feedback. Exploring space I think that is neat, War well the kind Bush wants is a different story, I believe planet earth has always been in some kind of war since the beginning and I guess it is to be our learning point, according to history anyway. It still is one day at a time to live, learn, explore, love, make friends, get married, raise a family, work, have fun just enjoy the life we have been given, thanks.
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aries72
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