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| Samf |
Posted - December 17 2002 : 9:25:59 PM
I had it explained to me this way, once: That there was three headed dragon.
One head was the drinking and/or using.
One head was thinking.
One head was emotions.
Now, when the drinking head was cut off, that still left my thinking and emotions.
Either of those heads could easily lead me right back to drinking or drugs.
Any thoughts?
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| aries72 |
Posted - February 05 2003 : 11:56:53 PM
Now that is interesting...and it leads me to wonder exactly who are my peers? Who are these people I am supposedly struggling to catch up to? It seems that part of the problem is that I have been trying to "catch up" most of my life. Early on in my recovery I remember feeling like I had to work twice as hard as everyone else to accomplish half as much and that no matter how hard I tried I could not escape the undeniable fact that I am an alcoholic/addict and different in some very natural and significant ways. Catching up was out of the question...I discovered that to catch up was to go backwards.
So who are these peers? Are they people my own age? Are they people who are sober as long as me? People I work with? People in Recovery?
I am 41 years old and sober almost 21 years, most of my freinds are much older and sober as long or longer. They are interested in similiar things, share similar basic views on sobriety and the essentials of recovery.
I gave up on catching up to people who I now see for the most part as sleep walking through life. Who seem to care little if at all for introspective reflection, spirituality or growth. They have a choice to grow emotionally or spiritually as seem to choose not to. I on the other hand have no choice, I must be rid of self-centeredness, I must do alot of things otherwise I will surely die.
Who exactly are these mysterious peers we are racing and striving to catch up to? Do I really want to catch up to them and when I do catch up with them am I finished?
My only desire is to catch up to myself and perhaps beyond that catch up to the person I was intended to be all along.
Michael
"In hoc cognoscent omnes quia mei estis discipuli si dilectionem habueritis ad invicem."
Thomas Merton
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| God_Chaser |
Posted - February 04 2003 : 11:04:32 AM
Now that is interesting...and it leads me to wonder exactly who are my peers? Who are these people I am supposedly struggling to catch up to? It seems that part of the problem is that I have been trying to "catch up" most of my life. Early on in my recovery I remember feeling like I had to work twice as hard as everyone else to accomplish half as much and that no matter how hard I tried I could not escape the undeniable fact that I am an alcoholic/addict and different in some very natural and significant ways. Catching up was out of the question...I discovered that to catch up was to go backwards.
So who are these peers? Are they people my own age? Are they people who are sober as long as me? People I work with? People in Recovery?
I am 41 years old and sober almost 21 years, most of my freinds are much older and sober as long or longer. They are interested in similiar things, share similar basic views on sobriety and the essentials of recovery.
I gave up on catching up to people who I now see for the most part as sleep walking through life. Who seem to care little if at all for introspective reflection, spirituality or growth. They have a choice to grow emotionally or spiritually as seem to choose not to. I on the other hand have no choice, I must be rid of self-centeredness, I must do alot of things otherwise I will surely die.
Who exactly are these mysterious peers we are racing and striving to catch up to? Do I really want to catch up to them and when I do catch up with them am I finished?
My only desire is to catch up to myself and perhaps beyond that catch up to the person I was intended to be all along.
Michael
"In hoc cognoscent omnes quia mei estis discipuli si dilectionem habueritis ad invicem."
Thomas Merton |
| notplastered |
Posted - January 22 2003 : 06:56:09 AM
I understand the disease to be spiritual, emotional and physical. Physical sobriety comes first and easiest once we detox and our bodies recover. Spiritual sobriety comes next as we work through steps 2 and 3. Such an awakening begins there and comes to fruition as the result of working the remainder of the steps.
Emotional sobriety is a life long process. Getting sober helps us catch up to the rest of our peers in our age group, who themselves are on an journey of emotional growth.
Never do I cease to grow in all areas. For to do so is to revert back to my disease. To do so is to die.
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| jackieo |
Posted - January 21 2003 : 11:58:12 PM
Samf as to your 3 headed dragon, yes when we surrender the first one drops off and we are left with the other 2 to deal with and that is where studying the Big Book, literally and that is how my sponser helped me. No. 1 was to slow down and begin to take the steps seriously, we did it monthly one step a month and so far it has worked. Also she suggested trust God, trust self and trust others in that order, hope this helps - just get into the book and find a good sponser, okay? God bless.
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| Samf |
Posted - January 11 2003 : 7:58:38 PM
Thanks, Michael!
I have been reading, but not posting, and you know what? I saw what you said, and have been using it, the last couple of days.
Thank you!
Sammie
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| God_Chaser |
Posted - January 09 2003 : 4:32:24 PM
My sponsor used to say "Michael, it all depends on which dog you feed"! I also used to hear things like you are what you eat and scratch my head thinking "So I am asparagus"? then it ocurred to me that there are many types of food and they can be eaten in many ways.
In the Lords Prayer it says "give us this day our daily bread". Some people change the word bread to strength not realizing that the bread mentioned means all our needs strength being only one of many. Courage could be another, as could patience or a thousand other things one might need. So why narrow the request by only asking for strength?
Maybe something to consider. A little off the topic maybe but not really.
Michael
"In hoc cognoscent omnes quia mei estis discipuli si dilectionem habueritis ad invicem."
Thomas Merton |
| journeytoserenity |
Posted - December 17 2002 : 9:58:23 PM
Well, I don't know, Sammie!! All 3 of my heads were under the influence!!! 
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